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Rob Ledbetter, Krinkavich, Jamie Flick, Mike Bell, Kristen Marcel, Jamie Barton, Craig Statch, Eric Nelson, Charity Krupa (Fayette co.),
Energy rising costs of energy prices, this hits home very closely, my dist has a nuclear plant and coal mines and lots of natural gas..energy, enegery generation and production is something I’m familiar with. Was atty for co in service energy co.
We are staring to see more and more prices going up, obtablcs, our energy provides us so many opts we could enjoy in pa and I don’t think we’re getting the most out of it that we could.
Terry Fitzpatrick. Rachel Gelason and Terry Callahan. – Calahan first: president of Marcellus shale coalition. MSC represents 130 energy companies, How to work together to…policies that expand access to clean affordable enrage y pa produced 28% of natural gas in 2008, today, pa is second largest natural gas producer in U.S. produce more than 20% of nation’s natuar gas.
What happened over next 15 years was unprecentendted..US went from energy importer to energy exporter.. innovations and tech uncooked ….in PA, even with higher electricity prices consumers have been seeing this year, PUC data shows cost of ….so actions and policies that directly or indirectly ..To understand the impact of restricting….blockade NY has U.S. Senate white paper…for every 10% of increase ….3.4 million households in PA use natural energy…..our We appreciate the support legislation….we’r grateful to rep. o’neal and marcel.
PA has a mature robust competitive marketplace that allows consumers to choose their energy source. To afford energy prices we need to boost production and WHAT.
Challenge is reviewing and procuring permits…In SWPA it can take several hundred days to get an earth disturbance permit. You can count on us to work cooperatively…..
Rachel Gleason – PA Coal alliance (PCA) – executive director … price of energy in PA….Pa is third largest coal producing state, PCA…42 million tons of coal in 2022. High BT….preliminary estimate….25 tons of …..In determining price of electricity it’s complicated, a lot goes into what goes into price consumer pays.
We had a depression-like economic and record-low demand. War between Russia and Ukraine, demand skyrocketed globally for coal. Coal industry adjusted….when discussing price of electricity, As of Sept. 2022, Prices are a key indicator…..in first 9 months of 2022, largest contributor…coal was in demand in 2022….when gas prices are high, generally, utilities turn to coal. But there was low coal inventories….U.S. Coal inventories grew at end of 2022. Coal came to the rescue to keep lights on….Natural gas generation has displaced coal…..but coal comes to the rescue to Winter Storm Elliott….Fossil fuel plants are being removed ….dismantling the grid, renewables are unreliable, increase risk of…..
Terry Fitzpatrick, pres cEO energy association of PA trade group represents electric and natural gas….common themes…electric and natural gas utility bills are higher this year, due to 18:00….war in Ukraine, general inflationary pressures, …..wholesale price of electricity and gas, from spring of 2021 to fall 2022 there was a tripling of costs…there is some good news here, wholesale cost of natural gas has gone down in last few months.
Rise in wholesale cost…..PA has rstrutuctrd…utilties don’t produce the energy. to get supplies for customers our companies have to go into the markets and bought that. You don’t have to buy your …I’m very familiar with that, before I took this job I was a member of the PUC and before that I was a staffer in state senate…Under the electric competition law and gas competition law….
People can consider budget billing, conserve energy and find tips on how to do that on all utilities’ websites. The electric utilities, larger ones, will offer programs to help customers pay for price of energy improvements…customers can consider offers from competitive suppliers. Gas and eletrics costs dropped recently. Now is a good time for shopping. PPL and utilities are indifferent as to shopping. Customers have shopping opportunities.
Customers having problems paying electric or gas should contact the company to see what assistance is there: universal service programs, customer assistance programs, there are government assistance programs, LIHEAP, and covid-related assistance programs, ….
KAIL – Callahan you mentioned permitting and permitting issues. That comes up a lot. Miss Gleason, fascinating we live in a world where we’re paying more for some energy providers…25 minutes…with renewables, you pay more for less service.
KAIL – hear about what happens in California with brownouts, we had incident last month where there were threats of having to turn out lights for 30 minutes at a time, first time I heard of that in our area…too much energy usage for capacity….
Gleason – there were issues in NC, Tennessee, New England and PJM, they underestimated the generation they would need, In NE there were issues with natural gas being so expensive they decided to burn oil.. demand on the grid when Winter Storm Elliott happened, there were fuel supply issues. I advocate for coal…back to paying more with taxpayer subsidies…you manipulate….
DAVE – in final analysis, nobody did lose their power despite record drop …it was truly of historic proportions, people didn’t lose their power, lessons to be learned: government picking winners and losers, adding 30 MINUTES
Fitzpatrick: reliability is an issue, Texas had issues a couple years ago, people died because they weren’t prepared, didn’t adqueatly winterize these facilities. PJM…we came closer to the than we would have liked.
NAERC – worried about relying on intermittent renewable sources….
KAIL – let’s say the renewable energy percentage on alternative energy portfolio was 30% instead of what it is today…..is more reliance on renewable energy 32 minutes….
FITZPATRICK – As you bring more renewable on line, you don’t displace or get rid of ….you have to find a way to pay them to stay in the market.
33 minutes.Affordability, reliability and Think pa has done a pretty good job…
35 minutes REP. ECKERT – how do I make sure I keep my choice for energy. What impact would leglistion banning natural gas, .outright banning f free market, allowing choice. Rep. Marcel’s bill is what we should push for.
CALLAHAN – detrimental to consumer, detrimental to What can be done is protecting the ability to choose, for choosing electric and gas supplier as well
REP. Nelson – you mentioned New England state., energy costs 81% higher…what impact would REGGI have on businesses and consumers…they pay higher prices for natural gas because they’re competing internationally, having products shipped from international sources….there are limited transmission from PA to other places….New England a couple years ago had tanker from
39 minutes: NY State wants to CHICK – REGGIE, from a coal perspective, we produce based on planning.
China is building coal plants, Indonesia, all building coal plants.
Kaats – a gentleman uses wind turbine to generate Callahan – general inflationary issue. Product of what we’re dealing with as a national economy… we’ve been speaking about pipelines, can you speak to impact that decisions to shut down Keystone XL pipeline has on cost.
FITZPATRICK – tens of thousands of construction jobs ..pipelines we need more pipelines, we need more capacity, more pipelines could have greatly aided the situation. I think one of the things I worry about looking ahead is some of anti-fossil fuel rhetoric, how that’s going to affect us.
I’m not going to downplay…folks want to reduce carbon emissions…
KAUFFER – I think consumers….getting sticker shock and seeing utitiliy bills and the rise….what should we be looking at as lawmakers, what policy tools 45 MINUTES….ACT 129 programs….charge EVs at off-peak hours…
47 MINUTES…TERRY – im a back to basics person, over long run I think was General assembly can do is all of the basic things that can allow us to continue to production of energy.
Marcel Energy Choice Bill – as far as EVs, we are studying what kinds of rates there should be for EVs so we can get them to use the grid most efficiently, charge at night when low usage…We object to some of the draconian penalties imposed on our members…energy efficiency programs work pretty well. $250 million
Where’s the balance between affordability and environmental sustainability….
energy prices now are cheaper at some point in the past, was that in raw dollars, inflation adjusted dollars…Those were raw dollars. $12 to $13 MCF… we also have to consider inflation generally….I personally have not really seen sticker shock in my utility bills but constituents have seen complete sticker shock…what are policies we can pursue that would help prevent this sticker shock I the future.
SHOP FOR YOUR ELECTRICITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE…I’m at 11 cents locked in…It is a good time to look at shopping for electricity options. FITZPATRIC – 52I don’t think there’s a
CALLAHAN- predictability in permits….52 MINUTES.
Don’t foreclose on consumer choice..we need more energy, we need more sources, we need…
There is a Need for diverse and robust supply side.
REP MARCELL – 54 minutes….gentleman said utility bill increased 25% year after year, why is this happening since we have all these resources in PA, why did my bills go up?
ENERGY CHOICE LEGISLATION – we talked about benefits of this legislation (Marcell) do you think this would interfere with efforts to de-carbonize? preserving choice 56 minutes…
News of BARTON – 1:15 PA is only state in nation that has anthracite coal. Misconception about coal….wasn’t regulated until 1977.
FITZPATRICK – 56 minutes. preser
Basd on world events in Ukraine and Europe, important for America to be energy incdpement. Callahan – second largest producer of natural gas….thanks to production here in pa and with our neighbors, we are energy secure. Energy security is national security.
ADVISE customers that you need to pay attention to details, how long are you locking into a price, or is it variable? is there an early termination fee? customers need to d some homework, powerswithc and gas switch websites are places to start.
Ledbetter, 105 minutes: money back guarantee in delays in permits
PANG industry about the cleanest 1:17 minutes – Callahan…it’s getting better. the industry is working every single day with advancements….the economic benefits have been equaled by the environmental benefits.
CARBoN CAPTUE..
We didn’t mention home heating oil, one out of 5 homes in PA is heated using home heating oil….
SCHLAGEL – idea of balance. As you look at balancing all factors that go into delivering cost-effective energy for folks in PA, is there an environmental 1:20…by focusing exclusively on environmental factors or sustainability, you lose sight of CALLAHAN – we need that balance, it makes common sense,
1:21 – FITZPATRICK – danger of environmentalism is idea of absolutism, fossil fuels are I do have a concern the stigma some people are putting on fossil fuels is a danger.
PA lags on efficiency of permit processing timeline. Most of it is site specific.
1:29 – KAIL we need to increase production….more pipelines…what can we do to remove obstacles to production in PA for coal and natural gas?
CALLAHAN – 1:30 We need pipelines to facilitate more poroudciton.